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		<title>Stop trying to mitigate what Rush said and embrace it instead</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2009 11:31:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Deuce Geary</dc:creator>
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Patterico has a poll of sorts up, asking people to answer this question in the comments to his post (yes, with bullets AND numbers!):
However, when [Rush Limbaugh] says “I want Obama to fail,” what did he mean? His line could have meant one of two things:

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<p><a href="http://patterico.com/2009/03/07/poll-on-limbaughs-meaning/" target="_blank">Patterico has a poll of sorts up</a>, asking people to answer this question in the comments to his post (yes, with bullets AND numbers!):</p>
<blockquote><p>However, when [Rush Limbaugh] says “I want Obama to fail,” what did he mean? His line could have meant one of two things:</p>
<ul>
<li>1. Rush opposes President Obama’s policies, and feels that they are likely to lead to more suffering. He hopes Obama’s policies are never enacted to begin with. However, if they are enacted, as seems likely, he wants to see them succeed. He wants the economy to do well. He doesn’t want Americans out of work.</li>
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<li>2. Rush opposes President Obama’s policies, and feels that they are likely to lead to more suffering. So, even if the policies do get enacted, Rush still wants them to fail. This is not because Rush wants more suffering for the American people. But he feels that, in the long run, the quick and dramatic failure of the policies might lead to Rush’s own proposed policies being adopted: namely, spending less and employing the free market. In the long run, this would be best for America.</li>
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<p>Patterico says #1 is a &#8220;no-brainer,&#8221; with which I agree, but it&#8217;s hard for me to tell if he also means that #2 is a view conservatives should <em>not</em> hold.  If that&#8217;s the case, I don&#8217;t agree.</p>
<p>Government programs and their bureaucracies become hard and harder to kill the longer they go on.  Swift failure is the only chance of having liberty-killing agencies killed off.  Even temporary success would make killing off horrible programs next to impossible.  And simply putting down a bad program is not enough — it needs a stake driven through its heart, or it comes back.  (See, e.g., <a href="http://councilfor.cagw.org/site/PageServer?pagename=news_NewsRelease_02132002" target="_blank">mohair subsidies</a>.)</p>
<p>The Left doesn&#8217;t really mean what it has been screaming for nearly eight years (and misquoting Ben Franklin in the process): that it is not acceptable to give up liberty for security.  They mean that only when it comes to unimportant types of security, like keeping your kids from being blown up.  But when it comes to <em>really important </em>types of &#8220;security,&#8221; like satisfying class envy, they throw liberty out the window like old dishwater.  (Well, maybe not like old dishwater, which would have detergents that could harm the environment if thrown out the window.  But you get my drift.)</p>
<p>And remember, the Left says the <em>Right</em> is fixated on money.</p>
<p><strong>UPDATE:</strong> Patterico now has <a href="http://hotair.com/archives/2009/03/08/david-frum-does-not-speak-for-me-any-more-than-rush-limbaugh-does/">a post up at HotAir</a> in which he elaborates on the need for Rush and others to state their positions clearly and, in the process, takes apart <a href="http://www.newsweek.com/id/188279">David Frum&#8217;s longing for lefty love</a> to illustrate that neither Frum nor Rush speaks for him.  Maybe I&#8217;m missing something (I only read his post once, and that&#8217;s not always enough for me), but Patterico doesn&#8217;t seem to come down on which of the two meanings he thinks should be attributed to Rush&#8217;s comments, (emphasis  original):</p>
<blockquote><p>Some say: conservatives can’t worry about how they say things. They know their arguments will be distorted anyway, so they shouldn’t worry about being misinterpreted. I <strong>completely disagree</strong> with this argument. I say: <strong>when you know people will distort your meaning, you have to be <em>extra careful</em> to express yourself clearly</strong>.</p></blockquote>
<p>I agree with this, but only up to a point.  The Left will <em><strong><span style="color: #ff0000;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">ALWAYS</span></span></strong></em> distort what is said by the Right, not always in what was said or intended, but <em>why it was said.</em> In the mind of the Left, the Right has no good motives.  They are never motivated by what they think is good for the country, good for individuals, or good for society, but by greed, &#8220;mean-spiritedness,&#8221; (apparently for its own sake or to satisfy greed) and a desire to see people suffer (again, apparently for its own sake or to satisfy greed).  </p>
<p>So, Patterico seems to think that an interpretation of Rush&#8217;s comments as #2 is a bad thing because it plays right into the Left&#8217;s &#8220;evil motive&#8221; thesis:</p>
<blockquote><p>But you can be forceful and clear all at the same time. For example, Rush could have said: “It doesn’t matter what I <em>hope</em> for. I <em>know</em> he’ll fail.” That would have been just as effective and compelling — but possibly less controversial. And while the controversy generated by this uncertainty over Rush’s meaning has been good for his ratings, it’s doubtful that it has been good for conservatives.</p></blockquote>
<p>I agree with Patterico on the need for clarity, but we need to be clear <em>motives</em> as much as positions. A public perception that Rush meant #2 is bad for conservatives only because it is being dished out without context.  And by context, I don&#8217;t meant whatever else Rush may have said on that day, but the animating thought behind the &#8220;hope he fails&#8221; comment. I mean why Rush and other conservatives want socialism to fail, and that is because it s<em>trips away liberty</em>.</p>
<p>To my mind, the person speaking most clearly about this at the moment is <a href="http://www.marklevinshow.com/">Mark Levin</a>.  Rude, bombastic, and angry, yes, but crystal clear on his unwillingness to trade liberty for economic recovery. I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s the kind of clarity Patterico wants, but it&#8217;s the kind we need.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, Levin&#8217;s clarity will likely be for naught.  Because he has a grating style, the Left will be able to attack him without ever actually taking on his ideas.</p>
<p><strong>UPDATE #2:</strong> Gabriel Malor at <a href="http://minx.cc/?post=283971" target="_blank">Ace&#8217;s</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>If the argument is merely about how rude and crude the party should be defending its principles then it&#8217;s just a waste of time. We&#8217;re always going to have folks who are more apt to foam at the mouth than sit down at a table and work out a winning coalition. Telling them to change their methods just results in another round of argument (as it did with Limbaugh this past week). This is what we see with folks whose livelihoods depend on ratings. Coulter, Limbaugh, Malkin, I&#8217;m looking at you.</p></blockquote>
<p>Maybe I&#8217;m reading Malor wrong, but this strikes me as another plea for acquiescence in the bullshit double standards employed by the media instead of calling bullshit on those standards.  It&#8217;s surrender.  &#8221;We&#8217;ll never change the media, so let&#8217;s play their game.&#8221;</p>
<p>Someone&#8217;s going to have to explain to me how Michael Moore, Maureen Dowd, Rachel Maddow, or Keith Olbermann is any less offensive than Coulter, Limbaugh and Malkin (whom I do find shrill, but maybe that&#8217;s mostly because she&#8217;s not also funny, like Limbaugh and Coulter are).  The big difference, again, is that the lefties a vilify conservative motives, while righties vilify lefty policies.</p>
<p>This difference needs greater exposure.  Sure, it gets talked about, but mostly in the right-wing echo chamber of talk radio and blogs.  What are we doing to take that criticism mainstream?</p>
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		<title>Is Ed Morrissey really missing the obvious?  UPDATE: Apparently, not!</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2009 05:57:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Deuce Geary</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ed Morrissey apparently finds it dishonest for Democrats to lambaste Rush Limbaugh over his comment that a health care bill would be named after Ted Kennedy, since they themselves suggested it less than two months ago.   But what did Rush actually say?  Here it is, with my emphasis:

Before it’s all over, it’ll be called the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://hotair.com/archives/2009/03/06/quotes-of-the-day-71/" target="_blank">Ed Morrissey apparently finds it dishonest</a> for Democrats to <a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090307/ap_on_go_co/limbaugh_kennedy" target="_blank">lambaste Rush Limbaugh</a> over his comment that a health care bill would be named after Ted Kennedy, since they themselves <a href="http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/01/13/senate-lion-kennedy-roars-national-healthcare/" target="_blank">suggested it less than two months ago</a>.   But what did Rush actually say?  Here it is, with my emphasis:</p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">Before it’s all over, it’ll be called the Ted Kennedy <em>Memorial</em> Health Care bill.</p>
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<p>Memorial.  As in after one is dead.  Sorry, folks, but it sounds like Rush was poking a little fun at Kennedy&#8217;s brain cancer.</p>
<p>Which doesn&#8217;t mean all the Democratic carping isn&#8217;t bullshit.  I don&#8217;t remember them being pissed off when Air America did a &#8220;comedy skit&#8221; that included the assassination of George Bush, or when Kossacks and DUmmies reveled in the news of Tony Snow&#8217;s cancer.  It&#8217;s just bullshit for a different reason than Morrissey thinks it is.</p>
<p><strong>UPDATE:</strong> Context, context, context.  My apologies to Ed Morrissey. Radio Equalizer has an <a href="http://radioequalizer.blogspot.com/2009/03/dems-push-fresh-round-of-anti-rush.html" target="_blank">extended transcript</a> from Rush&#8217;s show, and it is fairly plain to me, after reading it, that Rush wasn&#8217;t making fun of Kennedy and his ill health at all.  He was ridiculing Democrats for using Kennedy&#8217;s health to push nationalized healthcare. Big, big, big difference.</p>
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		<title>Honorary Skepticrat of the Month: Tammy Bruce</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 10:58:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Deuce Geary</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[OK, so folks may not exactly be clamoring for the honor of &#8220;Honorary Skepticrat,&#8221; but it just popped into my head when I caught a few minutes of Tammy Bruce&#8217;s radio show Saturday afternoon.  What did she do to earn it?
She said that the Republican National Committee had come &#8220;out of a coma&#8221; and improved [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.tammybruce.com"><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-929" style="margin-left: 15px; margin-right: 15px;" title="Tammy Bruce" src="http://www.skepticrats.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/picture-13.png" alt="Tammy Bruce" width="156" height="142" /></a>OK, so folks may not exactly be clamoring for the honor of &#8220;Honorary Skepticrat,&#8221; but it just popped into my head when I caught a few minutes of <a href="http://tammybruce.com/" target="_blank">Tammy Bruce&#8217;s</a> radio show Saturday afternoon.  What did she do to earn it?</p>
<p>She said that the Republican National Committee had come &#8220;out of a coma&#8221; and improved to a &#8220;mostly vegetative state&#8221; to elect Michael Steele as its new chairman.  Pretty apt, I thought.  And, she gave a contrarian viewpoint on the opening of Steele&#8217;s acceptance speech, which lots of conservative blogs have been featuring. She criticized Steele&#8217;s description of the RNC members as &#8220;proud.&#8221;"  In her opinion, anyone on the RNC who is proud of the party&#8217;s performance should be fired.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t have a transcript, so I&#8217;m paraphrasing above, but it was a nice, skeptical take on the self-congratulatory atmosphere surrounding Steele&#8217;s election.</p>
<p>To fully appreciate her comments, you probably need to know more about Tammy&#8217;s background.  Back in the early &#8217;90s, when I lived in L.A. and heard her on the weekends on <a href="http://kfi640.com/main.html" target="_blank">KFI</a>, she was my favorite gun-toting lesbian talk radio personality.  Really.  Even though she seemed thrilled that Clinton won, and I agreed with her on very little, she was interesting to listen to.  Now, the first sentence on her <a href="http://tammybruce.com/biography.php" target="_blank">biography page</a> describes her as an &#8220;openly gay, pro-choice, gun owning, pro-death penalty, voted-for-President Bush authentic feminist.&#8221; She&#8217;s also a tiger in the war on Islamic terror.  Check out her bio.</p>
<p>In short, I think it&#8217;s fair to say that most conservatives have considered her one of &#8220;the good guys&#8221; since 9/11.  She&#8217;s no Republican, but her commentary on Steele&#8217;s election might as well have been from a member of the party, earning her this month&#8217;s Honorary Skepticrat honor.</p>
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		<title>What is in the name &#8220;Hussein&#8221;?</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 03:37:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Deuce Geary</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good grief.  After bringing it up on TV last night, Hannity kept pressing Bob Beckel on the radio today to admit that now that we know Barack Obama is going to use his full name &#8211; Barack Hussein Obama &#8211; when he is sworn in on Inaguration Day, we should all be free to use [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,467607,00.html" target="_blank">Good grief</a>.  After bringing it up on TV last night, Hannity kept pressing Bob Beckel on the radio today to admit that now that we know Barack Obama is going to use his full name &#8211; Barack <em>Hussein </em>Obama &#8211; when he is sworn in on Inaguration Day, we should all be free to use his middle name when we refer to him.  Hannity was practically demanding apologies for criticism leveled at Bill Cunninham and others during the campaign for using Obama&#8217;s full name, and insisted that Obama&#8217;s intent to use it for being sworn in made it fair game.</p>
<p>Maybe Hannity thought he was being cute.  He knows exactly why Cunninham used the middle name &#8211; to sow doubt about Obama&#8217;s Christian credibility, to plant the idea that maybe he is a Muslim after all.  He can deny that all he wants, but I think he&#8217;s dishonest if he does.  As are sites like <a href="http://www.exposeobama.com/2008/12/10/barack-hussein-obama-is-name-for-inaugural-ceremony/" target="_blank">Expose Obama</a>.  You too, <a href="http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Colmes_to_Coulter_You_are_hate_1216.html" target="_blank">Ann Coulter</a>.</p>
<p>Cunningham&#8217;s use of Obama&#8217;s middle name was juvenile.  Just like it was juvenile for the left to refer to &#8220;George Herbert Walker Bush&#8221; to emphasize that he was a man of privilege.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re adults.  Why shouldn&#8217;t Obama use his full name?  Its an official, formal ceremony. Use of one&#8217;s complete name is, well, formal and official.</p>
<p>Is he supposed to be embarrassed by his middle name? The last time anyone I knew was embarrassed by his middle name, it was a fellow third grader.  I thought he was going to die when we found out his middle name was &#8220;Roland.</p>
<p>Then again, is Obama going to use his middle name at the inauguration as a first step in a plan to  &#8220;<a href="http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/politics/obama/chi-barack-obama-muslim-1210,0,5694976.story" target="_blank">reboot America&#8217;s image</a>&#8221; in the Muslim world?  The Chicago Tribune article seems to attribute that intent to Obama, but the context of the article makes it unclear whether Obama was explicit about that or if the reporter drew that conclusion on its own.</p>
<p>If Obama thinks that is going to make a difference, I think he&#8217;s crazy.</p>
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